I came across some fascinating information provided by Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa-Agha, an acknowledged independent expert authority on Pakistani military matters.
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First, here are some details about Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa-Agha which I’ve manage to collect from the Internet.
Her expertise: South Asia, military expenditure, arms control, arms procurement.
Her Brief Bio:
She did her doctorate from King's College, London in 1996 and has worked on issues varying from military expenditure, defence decision-making, nuclear deterrence, arms procurement, arms production to civil-military relations in South Asia. She is also a Ford Fellow and more recently Pakistan Scholar at t he Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars.
She began her professional career with the Pakistan navy as the Director of Naval Research, making her the first civilian and woman to work at that position in Pakistan's defence establishment. She writes for various international journals such as: Journal of Asian Affairs, Journal of the European Institute of Asian Studies, Jane's Defence Weekly and the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists. Her major publication to date is the book Pakistan's Arms Procurement and Military Buildup, 1979-99: In Search of a Policy (Palgrave Press, 2001).
The reason for the above blurb on Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa-Agha will soon become apparent; I simply wished to establish her credentials and highlight the fact that she is no intellectual light weight in her specialised field of knowledge.
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And now for the extracts from an email interview she gave to DesPardes.com's Editor-in-Chief Irshad Salim, August 2005, about the new book she is currently working on: "Military Inc, The Politics of Military's Economy in Pakistan".
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Question: So what is this book about?
Dr. Siddiqa: This book is about military business operations with a case study of Pakistan.
Question: So what prompted you to write this book?
Dr. Siddiqa: I was a civil servant. During the course of my work I had to deal with numbers of military spending and doing that one slowly realized that a lot was hidden. It is the search for numbers that took me in this direction. The other thing is that it is essential to understand the dynamics of the institution that virtually controls Pakistan's past, present and future.
Question: Ok, so who did you work for as a civil servant?
Dr. Siddiqa: I joined the civil service in 1988 and left in 2001. Served in military accounts, defence audit and later the navy.
Question: Going back to the Pakistan army’s business, what are your findings?
Dr. Siddiqa: Several. First, the military has become predatory engaging in political and economic predation. Second, political predation is not complete without economic predation. Third, military has mutated into a separate class that shares interests with other members of the ruling elite. Finally, because the military protects its vested interests, it leads to alienation of the masses.
Question: When did all this start?
Dr. Siddiqa: It dates back to the early 1950s. The business ventures were started with the establishing of the first foundation called the Fauji Foundation in 1953. This was established with the war veteran's rehabilitation fund of Rs. 18 million.
Question: Why do you consider forming Fauji Foundation a predatory step by the army?
Dr. Siddiqa: Listen you have to understand the concept. A politically strong entity that engages in political predation needs to feel economically or financially autonomous. This completes the picture of predation. The generals thought that they wanted to establish independent means of providing for their welfare and not depending on the civilians like it happened in India. The financial autonomy gradually created the logic for greater interest in political control.
Question: Give me one or two instances when the 1953 move swirled into predation.
Dr. Siddiqa: It started right then with Ayub Khan and his cabal getting agricultural land and establishing independent means for themselves.Look at Ayub Khan. He not only got several squares of agricultural land in Sindh, he also established his sons into business. Look at the entire lot of generals at the moment. A Major General has a legal worth of about Rs. 300 million [Rs. 30 crores]. These are conservative estimates.
Question: Going back to Pakistan army's economic superpower...What percentage of the GDP and GNP is it?
Dr. Siddiqa: This is difficult to calculate but their own estimates are about 4 % of GDP. I would say that their share in private sector assets is about 7-10 percent of private sector assets. This is a large number for any single group.
Question: Can you translate that into crores?
Dr. Siddiqa: 7-10 percent of private sector assets cannot be translated but I can give you another figure: They are worth about Rs. 200 billion. It is just the business. If you put in real estate then we are talking about a Rs 1 trillion plus economy.
Question: You mean Pakistan army's side economy?
Dr. Siddiqa: Yes. This includes real estate, businesses done by subsidiaries, organizations and individuals. You have to understand that this economy is predatory by nature because it does not accept any form of civilian control over it. It is independent in terms of planning, appropriation of funds, etc.
Question: If Pakistan army's assets total Rs 1 trillion can they fund Pakistan’s annual budget wholly or partially if they have to?
Dr. Siddiqa: This would, converting these resources into liquid assets and then it would be possible to pay. A lot of these resources are state resources that could provide for military expenditure and more. It is difficult to say that this money would fund the entire budget. Of course, it can but over what period? These assets were acquired over time and their value should be added to the annual defence budget.
Question: What was the defence budget for the year 2001?
Dr. Siddiqa: 131 billion. If you add these numbers the budget would escalate to over Rs. 400 billion
Question: When you left in 2001 how many generals, etc were there who form the command structure of Pakistan forces?
Dr. Siddiqa: Brigadier and up would be a few hundred.
Question: So if we assume 100 then 100 times 300 million = 30 billion is the legal worth of army's command structure correct?
Dr. Siddiqa: it is more but don't get into these fancy numbers... Plus the higher you go the more pricy you become. A full general is worth Rs 500 million [Rs. 50 crores] plus
Question: How much land does the forces own in each province?
Dr. Siddiqa: Difficult to bifurcate but to give you a taste - they own about 7-9 million acres in Punjab alone
Question: What percentage is it of whole of Punjab?
Dr. Siddiqa: I am still trying to figure this out. It is not an issue of what percentage is this of Punjab but that a major portion of state land is appropriated by one group
Question: What about Sindh?
Dr. Siddiqa: My sense is that it is less in Sindh
Question: Why is that?
Dr. Siddiqa: Most of the land is around the 2 barrages constructed after independence. Because they didn't make new barrages.
Question: What is their modus operandi in getting these lands allotment
Dr. Siddiqa: 10 % of land, according to the 1912 Colonization of Land Act, is allotted to the military
Question: 10% everywhere?
Dr. Siddiqa: Yes it would be everywhere land is found. Colonization of land refers to each land reclaimed due to creation of water channels and other irrigation projects. However, they tend to get more in Punjab
Question: Does India have this act too?
Dr. Siddiqa: No. They got rid of such acts when they did land reforms. Remember India is a state moving towards capitalism. A capitalist state would not create means for institutionalizing feudalism
Question: Are you saying Pakistan army has institutionalized feudalism?
Dr. Siddiqa: I am saying that it is a feudal institution as well
Question: So in that case their interests converge with feudal system correct?
Dr. Siddiqa: Yes
Question: Do you think they resisted land reform along with the feudal?
Dr. Siddiqa: I wouldn't say that they resisted but they had sufficient stakes not to pursue a policy that had a negative impact on their benefits. For example, who buys the land the Faujis sell? The local feudal or the new rural capitalist class that is equally feudal in nature. Why should the officers then try to destroy the class that bails them out financially. After 1999, generals have started to keep their lands
Question: What happened after 1999
Dr. Siddiqa: Since the value of land has gone up, especially after 9/11, generals now keep lands and have turned into absentee land lords
Question: Why did the value of land in Pakistan go up after 9/11
Dr. Siddiqa: Because of the money that started to flow in from Pakistani expatriates plus other Muslim countries
Question: What is their modus operandi in getting these lands allotted to generals individually and to their housing societies collectively?
Dr. Siddiqa: The provincial governments allot the land to the Ministry of Defence who then gives the land to the three services for further dispersal. The land is also given to the Jawans but the quantity is lesser than what is given to the senior officers. Plus, the generals get greater facilities in making the land cultivable.
Question: All this is based on 1912 colonization of land act that India got rid of and Pakistan still has?
Dr. Siddiqa: Yes, but they have done alterations as well. For instance, the act does not say that land meant for operational purpose be appropriated for personal use. It is against the law
Question: Are you saying that land meant for operational purposes are or have been appropriated to the generals for personal use or to the housing societies?
Dr. Siddiqa: Of course. All land in the cities is military land turned into housing colonies
Question: What is the conclusion of your book?
Dr. Siddiqa: Simple: The political leadership in Pakistan has to negotiate the military's gradual withdrawal from the economy if they want democratic institutions to grow
Question: At what value does the army buy land?
Dr. Siddiqa: Between Rs. 30-60 per acre. In some cases they pay more. This refers to the private housing schemes
Question: You mean in Defence Society in Karachi, the army gets land from the provincial govt for 30 to 60 rupees an acre only?
Dr. Siddiqa: There are 2 methods for getting land. All the military land converted for personal use is given at the ridiculous price I quoted. Then there are other schemes where they pay a little more. For instance, the Cantonment Board distributed plots of 500 yards each by appropriating part of the parking lot of the Karachi stadium. Each plot was for about Rs 600,000
Question: What was the fair market value of each plot at that time?
Dr. Siddiqa: One and a half crore
Question: Who got these plots?
Dr. Siddiqa: Generals. The bulk goes to generals. This was done by General Tauqeer Zia. As Chairman Cricket Control Board he authorized himself to return this land that once belonged to the Cantonment Board for further distribution
Question: Any more instances of such land grabbing?
Dr. Siddiqa: The entire Lahore Cantonment was turned into housing schemes. In fact, except for Defence phase I & II (Lahore), the rest of the land does not even belong to the military
Question: How many acres is Lahore Cantonment, if you know?
Dr. Siddiqa: About 8000 to 10,000.
Question: What is its fair market worth now
Dr. Siddiqa: Runs into billions. It should be around Rs. 700 billion
Question: What was the "grabbing price"
Dr. Siddiqa: As I said, Rs. 30-60. This is the rate that officers pay.
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I recall a journalist telling me that once at a press conference Sardar Attaullah Mengal declared that while the military regime constantly lambasted the Baloch sardars like him for cornering the wealth of Balochistan, he would gladly swap all his assets with those of any general any time, any day.
Now, thanks to Dr Siddiqa, I finally realise what Mengal was getting at.
It soon becomes very obvious that most of us have opted for the wrong career. If a banker friend of mine is right, then the highest paid salaried civilian is one Farooq Bengali, currently heading some Arab bank based in Karachi. Bengali’s annual salary package is rumoured to be in the range of Rs. 3 crores per annum.
Considering it took Farooq Bengali years of much lower salaries to get there and the fact he’ll mostly likely get this kind of salary for eight years at the very most – the maximum he can hope to accumulate in his lifetime is Rs 30 crores. This sum equals, according to Dr Siddiqa, an average major general’s net worth. There must be a few dozen of major generals around at any given time, so there ought to much great scope in getting there; after all there is only job available like Farooq Bengali’s, and he is currently occupying it.
Besides, once Farooq Bengali retires he goes home. The same doesn’t apply to our retired generals; they can become provincial governors, federal ministers, ambassadors, heads of one of the numerous Fauji conglomerates or even be in a position to mismanage the Pakistan Cricket Board. Now that is what a richly rewarding career is all about.
18 comments:
I offer to be son-in law of one of the FULL GENERALS in PAK Army....any one who would accept this offer... I'm a qualified Physician from UK.
I'm sorry anonymous you do not qualify, most of the son-in laws are groomed once they are selected from amongst the best looters in the army and brought in as the ADC's for the generals.
So we can take it for granted that pakistan's mean threat is its own army and Indian Army if it invades pakistan will be the true liberators
Major..are you nuts or blind? Every second freaking plot in Islamabad was initially alloted to a service man. Our army is a off-shoot of British army and are still not able to get out of the imperialistic ways. Please get real and stop this crap where you guys try to make the military some sort of holy institution. We need our country back from you! Please leave our land and go back to your barracks and we will call you when you are needed!
hmmm...this time i have made a big mistake to become an engineer.. no problem, next time :P. hehe
Reminds me of this joke I heard a couple of years ago: Pakistan army say Kashmir fatah karana hai to wahan per aik Defence Housing Society announce kar do.
Pakistan Army may not be a "Rogue Army" for the rest of the world but it has definitely proven itself to be one for its own people. It is good-for-nothing army since apart from vanquishing its own nation four times, it can boast of no other achievement. We as the citizens of this country should now think of freeing our homeland from the clutches of this Frankenstein before it's too late.
It is a shame that these men in uniform are turning out to be the nemesis of this country.
There was a time when young men joined the army with the intention of becoming Mujahideen and now they join it to secure their future and seek a profitable career. How can we expect these pathetic creatures to defend us against foreign aggression. The pity is that these are now the aggressors against us.
NEW SONG FOR PAKSITAN ARMY
AEY WATAN KE NASHEELAY JAWANO,
SARAI RAQBAI TUMHARAI LIAY HAIN,
KOTHION KE TALABGAR HO TUM,
PENSIONON KE PARASTAR HO TUM,
AI COMMISSION KI ZINDA MISALO,
SARAI OHDAY TUMHARAI LIAY HAIN,
UR KE POHANCHO GE TUM JIS JAGAH PER,
SATH JAEY GEE DAULAT YEH SARI,
BAB-E-KHYBER SE BAB-E-KARACHI,
SARI HOUSING SCHEMAIN TUMHARI,
TUM HO MALIK GAWADAR CITY KE,
SINDH KI SUB ZAMEENAIN TUMHARI,
CDA KE SABHI SECTRON KE,
SARE QABZE TUMHARE LIAY HAIN,
AEY WATAN KE NASHEELAY JAWANO.
To understand Pakistan one only needs to look at Latin America. Murderous dictators strutting around as liberators, wearing ridiculous uniforms festooned with effeminate decorations. Musharraf's uniforms look like Galtieri's hand-me-downs. The army that lost every war and lost half the country in the first 25 years is the greatest threat to Pakistan's security. Costa Rica escaped this fate by simply abolishing the army and the people there have always been among the most prosperous in the region.
Back to the Barracks!
Latest on Dr. Ayesha Agha!
Guess what Ayesha Agha is doing! Latest is she is abroad and her cars not one car is parked at one of the Indian nationals in ISLAMABAD. One media lady from India got her out of the country after her book was published, and arranged her stay abroad with someone called Rajesh Roshi. They say she is funded, along with her trips & living by Indians and the Wilson Center Washington DC! Indians screw their own general for writing a book against RAW but hell with Pakistani authorities who have done nothing yet. By the way any one has news heard she divorced her second husband also and is with a third one now?
Latest on Dr. Ayesha Agha!
Guess what Ayesha Agha is doing! Latest is she is abroad and her cars not one car is parked at one of the Indian nationals in ISLAMABAD. One media lady from India got her out of the country after her book was published, and arranged her stay abroad with someone called Rajesh Roshi. They say she is funded, along with her trips & living by Indians and the Wilson Center Washington DC! Indians screw their own general for writing a book against RAW but hell with Pakistani authorities who have done nothing yet. By the way any one has news heard she divorced her second husband also and is with a third one now?
Check this link to know about Dr. Ayesha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s91dBjvbA8
I am a civilian , but i dont believe this interview. This has just been done to degrade Pakistan Army. They dont own anything. When they retireo , over a colonel , they get a very small house and very little pension.
Their salaries are one of the lowest in the world.
hi I read the article and it is a pack of lies. How come Dr siddiqa served in the civil service for so many years and did not talk about it? Why do we have to become agents of the west and India in slandering our forces. I think if we are so fed up with military we should just disband it and then if there is no Pakistan at least we shall feel satisfied that the military was not resposnsible for it. What about thos poor chaps dying in Kashmir and FATA, i do not think that they deserve this crap. If one wants to join the military he or she should remember that everybody does not make it to the general and most of the time u have to spend a lot of time in god forsaken places and forced to live hand to mouth.
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